Keziah Arroyah "Fire Woman Warrior" and Mr. Bryant, is this junky genealogy?

One of my genealogy heroes is Robert Charles Anderson of the Great Migration series. I have great faith in his, and his team's, research practices, and frankly his work has shot holes in some of my family trees. Frustrating as it is to find out I'm wrong, I would much rather have a well written and proofed tree than one based on shaky evidence. Even worse is to have one based on no evidence at all.

My mantra, when doing research is, WWRT, this acronym stands for What Would Robert Think. Anderson's genealogy proof standards are very high. It may look like a rose, smell like a rose, have thorns like a rose, but if it doesn't come with three original documents with primary evidence, it's just a thorny good smelling weed. Now, not every one cares if their genealogy is a little weedy, and if that makes you happy, great. Others, myself included, prefer our roses to come with some provenance, my goal is to weed my genealogy garden and just leave the roses. So, that being said, here is why I think Keziah Arroyah is a weed!

Keziah Arroyah
Let me say at the outset that I don't have a dog in this fight. I am coming at this from a fairly neutral zone. Native American genealogy is hard, and it's a good way to hone genealogy research skills. So, for me this is excellent practice. This doesn't mean that I don't take this deadly seriously, well not deadly but but pretty darn seriously. And just because your genealogy is hard doesn't mean that you can lower your standards of proof. If I'm being honest I  would say that I am harder on this genealogy then on my own. So, that being said, here we go.

a bit of background 
Researching genealogy can be difficult and the further back in time you go, the more you need to understand the historical context in which your ancestors lived. Keziah Arroyah is said to have been born in 17th century Colonial Virginia; a tumultuous time for the fledgling colony begun in 1607. In March of 1622 the Powhatan Indians, lead by Opechancanough, brother of Powhatan, attached the English colonist.  In all, 347 men, women and children were killed, about 1/3 of the colony. [1]

John Smith
The attack, while a great setback to the colony, was the impetus to abandon any plans to convert the Indians and live in peace with them. The colonial leaders took the opportunity afforded them to "dispossess and exterminate the Indians". [2] Sir Francis Wyatt, the Governor, said "Our first work is expulsion of the Savages to gain the free range of the country for the increase of cattle and swine". He went on to say, "it is infinitely better to have no heathen among us, who at best were thornes in our side, then to be at peace and league with them." [3] John Smith, home safe in England said, "it is just cause to destroy them by all means possible." [4]

Limited warfare continued between the English and the Powhatans through the spring of 1632. The English regarded the Natives as "our irreconcilable enemies." The colonial government ordered them not to speak or parley with Indians on plantations or in the woods.[5] In 1632 the settlers were limited in the contact allowed with the Indians, trade was allowed only with approved Englishmen who could be trusted by the government. Throughout the 1640's Indian captives were sold either as slaves or servants. [6]

1585 engraving of a warrior
By 1643 the English were expanding beyond the James and York Rivers and were claiming land along the Potomac. In 1644, in the dying days of the Powhatan confederation, Opechancanough, a old old man, launched one final concerted attack on the Colony. While a large number of colonist were killed the percentage was much less than in the 1622 attack. The English were there to stay. [7]

In June of 1666 the English Governor ordered the Rappahannock County Militia to attack and exterminate the Indians within reach with permission to sell captive women and children into servitude. In July the English declared war on the Doeg, formerly called the Tauxenents, and attacked their upriver towns along the Potomac. This attack included the remnants of the Patawomeck tribe. The Patawomeck tribe was not mentioned again in Colonial records. [8]

By 1669 only two thousand Tidewater Indians remained alive, down from a population of twenty four thousand in 1607. The Natives had lost almost all of their lands and were confined to small reservations surrounded by burgeoning colonial plantations. Virginia laws invited any colonist to shoot and kill Natives who ventured onto their land. By 1670 there were an estimated forty one thousand English men, women and children living in Virginia. [9]

This was the world of Keziah Arroyah.

who was she
William Strachey, a member of the Virginia Company in the very early days, wrote about life at Jamestown. He mentioned that Pocahontas married a private Captain named Kocoum in 1610. This much is documented. According to the some researchers a child was born from this union; a daughter named Ka Okee. Ka Okee married Thomas Pettus in 1631 and they had two daughters, one  named Christian and the other unknown. The Anglo-Indian unknown daughter married Wahanganoche, a Patawomeck Indian who was the werowance of the tribe. Unknown female and Wahanganoche are said to be the parents of Keziah Arroyah. Keziah married an English man named _____Bryant, some say his forename was Richard. [10]

what's with that name?
The name Keziah is a old testament biblical name. Keziah was one of the three daughters of Job. The name is said to mean sweet smelling. This seems a highly unusual name for a Patawomeck Indian to give his daughter, even if his wife was a christian. If Keziah was an odd choice, what can we say about Arroyah. The name is alternately spelled Arroyo. This is a Spanish word which means a gully. Top this with the moniker "Fire Woman Warrior" and you have a helluva name. I have no clue where the fire woman comes from....

actually I have an idea about that
I found this statement on the website of the Powhatan Museum; it goes like this:
'Keziah Powhatan, the Tauxenent (Dogue) Indian leader of Northern Virginia, whose acts of bravery continue to inspire her many descendant."[11]
This is from a second website called American Indian Heritage:
"Their most famous ancestor was Keziah Powhatan, leader of the Tauxenent Indian band who burned the county courthouse in the 1700s." [12]
Another quote from the same website:
Keziah Powhatan was the leader of a Northern Virginia Indian band of Tauxenents (Dogues) whose "hostile actions" led to the removal of the first  Fairfax County courthouse.[13]
Ah, now we're getting somewhere! This article is about a Native American artist, Rose Powhatan and her exhibit. One of her pieces is a totem in honor of her ancestor, Keziah Powhatan. The piece is called "Fire Woman Warrior."[14] Her ancestor Keziah Powhatan was the leader of her people  in 1752. I don't know if Keziah was called Fire Woman Warrior in her day or if it was just the name of the art piece.

The English/American version of the 1752 move of the courthouse is a bit different than Ms. Powhatan's. Their version is that when the Fairfax County courthouse was built in 1742 it was located near Tyson's Corner, a site for the execution of criminals, in the western portion of the county. In 1749 the colonial government chartered the town of Alexandria, located on the coast. It quickly became a highly successful port for the exporting of tobacco. When the courthouse needed replacing in 1752 the wealthy merchants of Alexandria offered to build a new courthouse at their own cost, in order to alleviate travel to the Tyson's Corner area.[15]

While King Charles II was in exile in France waiting out Oliver Cromwell, he gave out gifts of land to his loyal followers. He gave the land between the Potomac River and the Rappahannock River to seven of his friends. The Fairfax family had control of much of this land by 1690. In 1742 William Fairfax had the county created and named for his family. In 1745 the English Privy Council confirmed their proprietary ownership of the land. The land remained in the family until 1779 when it was confiscated by the state of Virginia. [16]

what have we learned
Despite the historical discrepancies in the story of Keziah Powhatan, leader of the Doeg Tribe in 1752, clearly she was not the Keziah Arroyah born the previous century. Keziah Arroyah was not the "Fire Woman Warrior."

let's add in some names and dates 
I am a visual person, so I made up this table of Keziah's purported ancestry to make it easier to see what is what. Below is a screenshot from my computer.

I started with Pocahontas and Kocoum. I used the color blue to designate documented people; people whose names can be found in contemporary records or writings. The purple shading indicates people for whom there is no known contemporary documentation (that I can find). The only two known dates are the year Pocahontas died in England and the year Richard Bryant died in 1704. Everything else is a guesstimate. The 1635 marriage date for Ka Okee was found on wikitree. I supposed she could have been married as early as 1628. But Keziah Arroyah would have had to have been born by 1635 to be the mother of Richard Bryant in 1651. No matter how you do the math, she could not possibly have been born before 1655, there are two many generations to between Pocahontas and Keziah, even if the women all married at fourteen, it's just not possible.

if not possible, is it plausible?
According to Anthropologist Helen Rountree, who has studied the Powhatan Indians for decades, very few Native/English marriages took place. Why was this? According to historian Alden Vaughan, Jacobean Englishmen were so culturally myopic that they would not consider marriage to a "savage." A pamphlet written in 1624 said that the native women were "neither handsome nor wholesome" and that intermarriage would not be profitable nor convenient as they have no such breeding as our women have." [17] These are harsh words.

After the 1622 Indian assault on the colony, the emerging English policy was one of "unrestrained enmity and almost total separation that reflected a persistent but often repressed contempt for the natives. [18] For the next decade the English waged total war on the Indians, irregardless of their tribe. The military leaders resorted to such "dishonorable" means as serving poisoned alcohol to a group of Indian Chiefs at a meeting purported to be a peace talk. The policy of the London Company was to root and and destroy the Indian population. Edward Waterhouse, writing on behalf of the Company expressed it's views on Indians by saying they were justly compelled to use the Indians as servants and drudges. They were fit to work in mines or be sent to Bermuda to work on plantations. A 1622 pamphlet produced by the Crown claimed that the natives were brutish, ignorant and natural born slaves. [18] The Englishman, noble, learned, wise and virtuous, had a natural born right to govern and command the native population. [19]

It is obvious that the English settlers had a low opinion of the Native population. The Natives were not the compliant, submissive people that the English had hoped to find. The Powhatans had an equally low opinion of the English. They thought they were lazy, smelly, duplicitous, and dangerous. They did not want to convert to Christianity, they did not want to live like the English. They wanted to live their lives as they had always done, retaining their religious and cultural identity. This raises, in my mind, some serious questions about this ancestry.

1. How would the daughter of Pocahontas, a full blooded Indian, living with her kin, meet and marry an Englishman in 1635. Why would Opechancanough allow such a marriage to occur?

2. Why would Thomas Pettus marry the grand niece of his colony's mortal enemy. What would have been the reaction of his English neighbors?

3, If Thomas Pettus did marry and have children, why would he allow his daughter to marry, not only an enemy but the Chief of a tribe which the English were trying to exterminate. Why would he subject her to a life on the run, never knowing when the English would attack?

4. In order to marry an Englishman, the Indian woman would have to have been baptized as a Christian. Their children too, would be Christian. Would Thomas allow his Christian daughter to revert to what he would consider a pagan lifestyle?

5. By the 1660s the Native population had been decimated. Most of the survivors were living in small reservations. The English goal was complete subjugation or annihilation. How would Richard Bryant have met a daughter of Wahanganoche? Why would he have wanted to marry her?

supposed children of keziah and bryant
According to the wikitree profile for Keziah Arroyah, she and Richard Bryant had four children. Richard Jr. who is well documented and three others; Silent, Martha, and Thomas Powhatan. Martha Bryant married Thomas Foley and William Burton. She, like Richard, was born in the 1650's and therefore cannot be the daughter of Keziah. Thomas, who was never know as Powhatan, married a woman named Eleanor, Thomas' age also rules him out as Keziah's child. Silent married a woman named Lucy Doniphan but there is no document that proves their existence.

my conclusion
It is my belief that Keziah Arroyah as described on the web and on wikitree did not exist. She was not the wife or (Richard) Bryant and not the mother of his children. This is a simple matter of math. There is no way possible for her to be the great granddaughter of Pocahontas. I am convinced that this genealogy is pure fiction.

This ancestral tree is not the product of genealogy. It does not meet the requirements of the genealogy proof standard. 


[1] Alan Taylor, American Colonies: The Settling of North America, (New York : Penguin, 2002).

[2] Taylor, American Colonies, 2002.

[3] Helen C. Rountree, Pocahontas' People: The Powhatan People of Virginia Through Four Centuries, (Norman, Oklahoma : University of Oklahoma Press, 1990) 94-97.

[4] Rountree, Pocahontas' People, 94-97.

[5] Rountree, Pocahontas' People, 81.

[6] Rountree, Pocahontas' People. 94-97

[7] Rountree, Pocahontas' People. 94-97

[8] Rountree, Pocahontas' People. 94-97

[9] Taylor, American Colonies, 2002.

[10] wikitree contributors, "Keziah Arroyah "Fire Woman Warrior" Powhatan (c. 1635-1690), wikitree ( : accessed 6 April 2016).

[11] Auld/Powhatan, "Powhatan Gallery," Powhatan Museum of Indigenous Arts and Culture ( : accessed 5 April 2016).

[12] Phoebe Mills Farris "American Indian Heritage & StoryCorps 2011: One Woman's Family Story," NMAI ( : accessed 5 April 2016).

[13] Auld/Powhatan, "Powhatan Gallery," Powhatan Museum of Indigenous Arts and Culture ( : accessed 5 April 2016).

[14] Auld/Powhatan, "Powhatan Gallery."

[15] Charles A. Grymes, "The Migrating Courthouse," Virginia Places ( : accessed 5 April 2016).

[16] Donald M. Sweig, "A Brief History of Fairfax County," Fairfax County ( : accessed 6 April 2016).

[17] Alden T. Vaughan, "Explusion of the Salvages: English Policy and the Virginia Massacre of 1622," William and Mary Quarterly, third series, vol. 35, no. 1 (January 1978) 72. digital images, JSTOR ( : accessed 6 April 2016).

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  1. I might be in a unique position to help with this search. I'm a direct descendant of Richard Bryan through his son Richard Jr who is well documented. All but one of the spouses in our line are documented, so if I have Indian DNA links then it will have to be from the connection you discussed. I have a kit on order now.

    1. I am also a direct descendant of Richard Bryant. I am interested in how your DNA results come out.

    2. Have you received your DNA results yet? My father, Richard Henry vanHaagen, is a descendant but his DNA tests (Family Tree DNA and Ancestry) show no Native American results, nor do mine. It is possible that these ancestors are just too many generations back and not of a direct father to father or mother to mother line.

    3. What do your DNA results show? Thank you.

    4. Hello! I recently received my DNA results and it shows 0 native american ancestry. Please let me know if you want any further information that may help.

      Jared Bryan

    5. I too am a direct descendant of Richard Bryant, documented. I've done two DNA tests and not a drop of Native American ancestry.
      Jeanie Roberts, thank you for this well-researched, well-written explanation.

  2. JB, thanks for reading and commenting on my blog. Please keep me advised as to your DNA results. I do not know alot about DNA results but I do know that with an ancestor that far back, a negative result does not necessarily mean that you do not have a NA ancestor. And, since we cannot be assured of the total fidelity of our ancestors, a positive result may not mean what you want either. That being said, I have never said that Richard Bryan was not the son of a NA woman, only that he is not the son of a particular woman. A DNA test may tell you what she was, but it is not going to tell you who she was.

  3. DNA will not test past 6 generations....

  4. If the English opinion were so low as you and all your sources say, then why did John Rolfe dare marry that savage Pocahontas in April 1614? Why would the artist, Simon van de Passe make and engraving of Pocahontas while she was in England, and the only image of Pocahontas done from life? Why would Pocahontas be known "Lady Rebecca Rolfe," and attended a masque where she sat near King James I and Queen Anne? Wow. I guess the Native Americans were not so badly thought of after all in England.

  5. Understandably, we all should be on the look out for genealogical cons. But, there are colonial Stafford County Virginia documents showing the relationships of Keziah to her father, Dr. Richard Thomas Bryant, her husband, and their children. There are recorded connections between Keziah Arroyah and the Bryant Family as in deeds, marriages, deaths, and in books by genealogists.

    Ja11 Keziah Arroyah
    Ja11 Keziah Arroyah was the daughter of (Ja12) Wahanganoche and possibly an unnamed daughter of Ka-Okee and granddaughter of Kocoum and Pocahontas Born: about 1640 Married: Richard or Thomas Bryant/Brian Died:

    The connection between Bryant, Keziah Arroyah and Elinor Bryant who married Robert Duncan and had Elinor, Mary and Anne Duncan is established by two deeds. There are other records establishing the basic relationships of different lines descending from Keziah Arroyah. Richard Bryant and Keziah Arroyah had issue: (Br10-1) Dr. Richard Bryan married Ann Meese/Amees, daughter of Henry Meese and Mary C (Br10-1-1) Dr. Joseph Richard Bryan b. ?1687. Dr. Richard Bryan is an ancestor of Bryan Reddick, PhD., Bryan or Sheila Reddick []. d 1749 King George, Va. (10-2) Thomas Bryant m Elinor his Indian Servant (Br9-3) Martha Bryant (about 1650 - after 1690) married Thomas Foley and had 5 children, 2nd William Burton. (Br 10) Silent Bryant m Lucy Doniphan (Br9) Elinor Bryant dau. married Robert Gallup (Br10-5) Nathaniel Bryant p Mary Amees, b/d in Stafford Co. Virginia, (Br10-6) Elizabeth Bryan, b/d in Stafford Co. Virginia.

    MONTEITH Family & the Potomac Indians by William "Bill" L. DEYO. DeJoux Publications, Dahlgren, Virginia

    Deyo, William L. The Monteith family and the Potomac Indians. (Colonial Beach, Virginia: DeJoux Publications, c2000).

    (DEYO is also descended from Japasaw & is a past president of the Virginia Genealogical Society.)

    Keziah may seem a Hebrew name to you, and Arroyah may sound Spanish. Most likely in the Native language, her name was not pronounced in the same way and, certainly not spelled out in the same manner. I wouldn't make fun of other peoples cultures, if I were you, and then have a blog about Native Americans?

    1. Tieplay, thanks for reading and commenting. Keziah may be found in 'books' but William Deyo is only source given for her. Can you tell me where the two deeds that names Keziah and Dr. Richard Bryant can be located? I have searched for these deeds with no success. And what are these Colonial Stafford County documents? What do they say? I would love to see them.
      Henry Meese had a daughter named Anne, she was born and died in England. There is no proof he married a Native American.
      Deyo may have been past president of the Virginia Genealogical Society put his work is certainly not based on the Genealogical Proof Standard, the accepted standard of all Genealogical Societies.
      You can copy all the junk you want off the internet but it has to be backed up with facts, which are short on the ground in this case.
      I have nothing but the greatest of respect for Native Americans past and present, what I do not respect is people inventing Native American ancestors for whatever purpose.

  6. Native Americans were a novelty in England. Successive waves of Native Americans visited England. They were paraded around, painted, feted and then sent back home to tell their fellow Native Americans how great England was. Pocahontas was a pawn, used to raise money for the fledgling Virginia Company. The English kidnapped her, and according to NA oral history tore her away from her husband and her child in order to use her as a bargaining chip with her father. The English used her from start to finish. Did they admire her? Did they respect her? Did they view her as an equal? Who can say.

  7. Jeanie,
    "Inventing Native Americans ancestors for whatever purpose" is most surely unacceptable. I don't know of anyone that wants to be related to people that they really have no blood connection with. There may be extreme cases. But, imagine persons being cheated of their culture and being dissuaded from even searching for it. When Dr. Deyo wrote his book, he had sources to back up his claims or references. When the Patomwomeck Indian Tribe was recognized and accepted by the state of Virginia in 2010, Terri Hampton Roesenthal writes, " I am a descendant of this tribe, and a direct descendant of Chief I-Opassas (Japasaw) through the marriage of his daughter Keziah Arroyah and Dr. Richard Bryant, I am one of the many great grandchildren who still call the Great Commonwealth of Virginia home. I am Chief I-Opassas’s 10th generation great granddaughter. And this is only one of the many bloodlines in my family to this tribe as well as other Virginia tribes..." . Patawomeck Indian Tribe; General Assembly ( Virginia, 2010) to extend state recognition & representation on VCI. (HJ150). So, there must be much more documentation out there that we just haven't found yet. Thanks for letting me contribute.

    1. Lynn I have a friend who specializes in Virginia genealogy and she and I have spent hours and hours pouring over all available sources, in libraries and online and there is nothing to be found. The first Bryant that can be documented is Richard Bryant b. abt. 1651. There is nothing to be found for an earlier Richard Bryant. See this well documented website about early Colonist in Virginia and Maryland: It has many of these people that Deyo includes in his genealogies. The wife of this Richard Bryant is Anne Maiden Name Unknown. There is no brother Silent Bryant or wife Lucy Doniphan, they don't exist on paper. Even if we exclude the Native American part of this genealogy there is nothing on the Bryant's until Dr. Richard Bryant appears on the records in 1669 when a Richard Brian arrives in Virginia. Richard Bryant in a 1690 court case said he was 39 years old. There is no record that he was born in Virginia, in fact it seems as if he was born in England.

      If you google Deyo and read his entries on various websites over the years, you can see his theories evolve into what they are today. He never offers concrete sources but he has cobbled together other peoples family lore and come up with the mess on multiwords.

      I appreciate you comments, and I will happily amend my writing when and if these documents are found. But until then, I will apply the standard of proof for professional genealogy to my research.

      If you find Mr. Deyo's research acceptable, than that's all that matters. We each have to decide for ourselves what we believe. In the end, what does it really matter? I enjoy the challenge of teasing out documented genealogy, others just are happy to believe they are related to Pocahontas.


    2. Ok Lynn, lets just for a moment set aside Deyo, documents, research etc. and concentrate on math.

      KaOkee meets and marries Thomas Pettus after his 1631 arrival. Let's say they marry in 1632 and by the end of the year she has her first child. This child, Unknown Pettus is the wife of Wahanganoche. So if she is the first born child, born in 1632, by 1651 her daughter Keziah gives birth to Richard Bryant. He tells us he was born in 1651 in a deposition.

      In 1651 Unknown Pettus, wife of Wahanganoche is at most 19 years old. How is it possible that a 19 year old has a fully grown married daughter, Keziah Arroyah?

  8. Jeannie,

    This is what I have.

    Kaokee Powhatan (1611-1704) was married to Chief Arroyah Wahaganoche (1607-1662). They had 5 recorded children. One of the daughters was Keziah Arroyah (1635-1690).

    Keziah married Richard Thomas Bryant (1630 -1680) in 1650 Stafford County, Virginia. They had 6 recorded children, and a son that they name Richard Thomas (1651-1704).

    As far as the records I have go, I have no Thomas Pettus and no unknown Pettus. I am unsure where you got this name.

    It's not a math problem.


    1. Bill Deyo says that KaOkee married Thomas Pettus and their daughter married Wahanganouche making KaOkee Keziah's grandmother.

  9. I have no dog in this hunt other than a desire to see accurate, documented information to go along with claims of Native American ancestry. Where are the five children of Wahanganoche documented? Where are the documents of their marriages? Marriage between English settlers and Native Americans in colonial Virginia at this time was uncommon. Because it was so rare, the marriage of Giles Brent to a Piscataway woman is well recorded and parts of their story seems to have been rewritten as the Bryants’ story. By 1644 almost all of the Indians living in the Jamestown area had been wiped out, and over the next twenty-five years the colonists suceeded in eliminating almost all the rest. Court permission was required to employ an Indian servant in the 1660’s.

  10. Hi, I happen to come across this article and I have been doing my Husbands geneology and His Family is from English Imagrants as well as his Mother and I have family records that document all the way to Richard and kezziah, Our Family also has photos and the line goes, to martha connely, john, foley, Bryant foley, rebecca connoly, phillip wilson , elizabeth wilson, ester Hacker to the White Family..our Line

  11. hi Barbara, could you please share your documents for Richard and Keziah, would love to see them. Thanks Jeanie

  12. Hi, I happened to run across this article while trying to research Keziah and I'm having the same issues as Jeanie. The dates don't fit and the documentation is sparse at best. I also like to have documents for everything. I don't like putting people in my tree unless I know there is a real connection. I was adopted and found my mother when I was 30 and my father about 6 years ago so it is very important that it be right. I did have my DNA tested by 3 different places, Ancestry, 23 and me and the National Geographic Genome project. All came out with .5% Native American ancestry. I'm pretty sure it is from this line. According to my research Pocahontas is my 11 times great grandmother. I believe this is correct but it would be nice to know for sure.

  13. If anyone has taken a DNA test for this: Please post the type, from what company, as well as your sex. There are various types of DNA tests, and results differ for men and women due to mtDNA and Y-DNA.

  14. I keep seeing assertations online that the Patawomeck/Potomac "disappear" from historical records post 1600s but that is absolutely not true. Mooney/Speck did fieldwork with them along with the other currently recognized VA tribes and maps drafted during the Civil War era outline a "Patamak Indian" community. As a tribe they have been intermarrying with the Pamunkey and Mattaponi for centuries. I don't know about "Fire Warrior Woman" Keziah. I do know it's not uncommon for tribes to have oral legends and histories. The current system of record keeping is very Western. Going strictly evidence based, the VA people have particular and peculiar histories. If you were to hold the genealogy of the other recognized VA groups to the same scrutiny as the Patawomeck....they too would be lacking. I have spent many hours with the anthropology expert who serves as an advisor to the Pamunkey and Patawomeck and he agrees that the criticism the Patawomeck get is largely due to the fact that most of their members are white passing. The VA tribal recognition process was modeled after the Federal Recognition process and the only weak point they had was on government continuity. Even Helen Rountree recognized them as a distinct Indian community when she was the VIC council expert

  15. I’m directly related to Keziah through my grandma Lee and funny as it sounds, but is 100% true, Robert E Lee is my 4th great uncle 😊 his brother Sidney was my grandpa ✌🏼 MD Lee .

  16. Supposedly, as a result of her marriage to Richard Bryant, Keziah Arroyah is a distant Grandmother of mine. Also, my family oral history includes a Native American connection through my Great Grandfather Vickery. However, my DNA Test does not indicate any Native American DNA.

  17. Sigh. Yet another of my alleged Native American ancestors whose very existence is heavily disputed.

    Either there are a lot of basic white people creating these profiles from thin air to make themselves seem more exotic, or there are an equal number of racist white genealogists trying to erase them from existence to distance themselves from the truth. But I assure you Mrs. Arroyah is FAR from the only person this is happening with.

    Any time I unearth a potentially Melungeon or Indigenous ancestor in my tree, I hit a brick wall at Then I head to Wikitree or where the editors get all gatekeep-y & start disputing their existence. I honestly can't tell if it's a case of "paper records for non-white people were not kept due to traditional differences/hardships like slavery & the Trail of Tears" or "white people are going to great lengths to create these ancestors from thin air". But this Keziah lady's story is the tip of a very big and troubling iceberg in my own research & I wish we had a way to weed out the fakes where paper records are lacking.

    DNA is not the be-all, end-all because it gets "diluted," particularly if you only had one ancestor of a particular ethnicity many generations back. You might not have inherited ANY of their DNA while your sibling did. It's complicated:

    P.S. thanks for keeping the comments open & for your in-depth research. It does appear that THIS lady is fake, particularly for her link to Pocahontas. When I saw that I was immediately dubious.

    1. I have the same exact thoughts and feelings. I’ve come across this very line and it’s very suspicious.

    2. Do you have any other Native American or People of Color in your family tree that seem "questionable" like this? Where they're disputed on various genealogy sites or claim to be Native by blood but are not officially on the rolls, etc.

      I definitely do and it's super frustrating. (Last names: Creebeck-Helton, Green, Goodman-Kirk & Gosa).

      But this Keziah line is probably the most obviously bogus. The author here does a great job of debunking her existence.

  18. well jennie you arent for mixed bloods are you it for certain i have indian heritage chief george light sky he even signed the peace treaty in tellico plains tn but his childrens children were not on indian roll because they lived out side the tribe so thats all i ever care to say to you on that and almost every four generations of my parents carry native blood and all is not written down the cherokee didnt write at that time and ive never ask for a penny but my ancesters were some of my ancesters were rejectedand it all had to do with gov money which comes from the people anywayand if you dont think white and lots of indian didnt mate and all of written down your not very intelligent

  19. i tried to get my cousin on indian roll in nc his gramdmother was polly matoy her father chief matoy and i was told in nc by a sequayah by name indian couldnt do that which sequayah was half to begin with really a mixed blood and now they want be indian but if you dont live there your not indian well let me tell you nobody will ever take my blood line from me indian and whatever.some of mine was documented and some not all were not documented and you no it .lets get real folks this is crazy.he has passed since i tried to help him so sad but hes with them now youif you think all that mated and had children when they couldnt even write were all documented then your crazy,


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